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Why Agency New Business Stalls Between $2M and $5M
By Kurt Schmidt
|October 9, 2026
Between $2M and $5M, agency new business usually breaks for structural reasons. The founder still opens or rescues most deals, referrals carry the pipeline, a few clients hold too much revenue, and growth has no weekly owner. The fix is a weekly owner, a pitch others can deliver, and a pipeline everyone can see.
Five years in, with the agency at about $3M a year in revenue, an owner wrote on r/marketingagency: "I cannot build a predictable engine for acquiring clients."
Between $2M and $5M, that problem is usually structural. The way the firm wins work was built when it was smaller, and it still runs through the founder's relationships, the founder's pitch and the founder's calendar. Working harder at it adds hours to one person's week without adding a second person who can win work.
Key Takeaways
- Between $2M and $5M, new business stalls because winning work still depends on the founder, who opens most deals and rescues the late ones.
- The common causes are referrals that stopped growing, a few clients holding too much revenue, a service list that kept expanding, and an opening price that never went up.
- The fix is a setup other people can run: a proposal template, a discovery script, a referral process, a clear business development role and one owner who runs a weekly meeting.
- Track how often the founder gets pulled into calls, where referrals come from, how many discovery calls fit, and how many deals close without the founder stepping in.
What does broken new business look like at $2M to $5M?
Broken new business at this size looks busy. Leads come in and proposals go out, but deals only move when the founder steps in, and the next good client still arrives by referral or by luck.
Founder-dependent new business is a pipeline that only moves when the founder is on the call. My Agency Pipeline page describes four signs of it:
- A business development hire eight months in with no closed deals, even though the pipeline volume looks fine.
- Best-fit prospects who used to arrive through referrals, with that flow flat or declining for two quarters.
- The founder back on intro calls that should have stopped going to them a year ago.
- Discovery calls that feel like price-shopping, with a client who still wants to hear it from the founder.
An agency owner at $3M asked on Reddit whether the trouble was "a positioning problem, a channel problem, a sales problem, or all 3." At this size it's often more than one, and the place to start is how much of the selling still needs the founder.
Why does agency new business stall between $2M and $5M?
New business stalls at this size because the firm has outgrown the way it wins work. Five causes come up again and again: the founder is still the closer, referrals have stopped growing, a few clients hold too much revenue, the firm took on every kind of work, and the opening price never went up.
The founder is still the closer and the rescuer
At $2M the founder is often still in every deal that matters, either opening it or saving it at the end. Gary Magnone explains why in his post on agencies stuck between $2M and $3M: "At two to three million, your agency usually isn't big enough yet to have a middle management or director layer."
Tim Kilroy describes what that missing layer does to the owner's week in his write-up on the agency growth plateau: "You're playing COO, head of sales, and head of delivery simultaneously." Of those three jobs, new business loses first, because client work has deadlines and your own growth doesn't.
Buyers also trust you personally. Proposals close because you wrote them, and referrals come in because you asked for them. Until that changes, the rest of the team can't close the deals you close.
Referral share has stopped growing
Referrals compound when a client can describe what you do to a friend in one sentence. When the only person who can say it well is the founder, referrals stay inside the founder's network, and that network only grows so fast.
At Schmidt Consulting Group we worked with a founder-led agency that had grown the whole business on referrals until the referrals slowed down. We built a simple weekly rhythm around the people they already knew, starting with past clients and former colleagues who trusted the work. Within a year they'd signed six clients no referral would have brought them.
A few clients hold too much revenue
Big clients make new business feel less urgent. Digital Agency Business, a site that advises agency owners, describes agencies where two or three accounts hold 30-40% of revenue. Growth then follows those few relationships, and in their words, "New business efforts slow because the pressure isn't there."
That range comes from their own observation of agencies, and they don't cite a study. Their check is the share of revenue held by your top three clients, and they say that "If it's above 40%, that number is doing more to explain your plateau than anything happening in your sales process."
The firm took on every kind of work
Kilroy's $5M ceiling is about what saying yes to every kind of project does to a firm. He calls it "positioning collapse": "You took on every kind of work to hit $5M." He says the firm then looks like twelve other agencies of the same size, with a sales team "competing on price because they have nothing else to compete on." His fix is "choosing what you stop doing."
In an r/agency thread for owners at $1M to $3M, one owner said agencies stall at $2M when "they spread too thin trying to be a full-service shop."
The opening price never went up
Prices set when the firm was smaller tend to stay put, because testing a higher number on a live deal feels risky.
A boutique branding agency we worked with had grown as far as referrals would take it, and every new branding conversation opened at $5,000. At $5,000 a project, growth takes a lot of projects. The founder picked one kind of client to focus on. For those projects the founder now asks for $10,000 to $50,000 and says the range in the first conversation.
Which leak do you have?
Founder-led agency growth leaks in one of four places: positioning, pricing, pipeline or AI capacity. Many of the agencies I work with have two running at once, and my page on the four growth leaks describes what each one looks like in an ordinary week.
A common mix-up is hiring salespeople to fix a positioning problem, and the money is gone by the time anyone finds the actual leak. Each of the four has its own signal:
- Positioning: a prospect asks what makes you different, and the answer is generic. Start with agency positioning.
- Pricing: revenue grew last year and the take-home didn't.
- Pipeline: the description of what you do is clear, and deals still stall unless the founder steps in.
- AI capacity: the team uses AI in delivery and the rate sheet hasn't changed.
Positioning and pipeline are easy to confuse. Positioning decides whether a prospect understands why to hire you. Pipeline decides whether anyone besides the founder can carry that prospect from first call to signed contract. A firm with sharp positioning can still run every deal through the founder.
Once you know which leak you have and want to choose a fix, seven revenue levers for agencies compares the options by impact and effort.
What new business system does a $2M to $5M agency need?
A $2M to $5M agency needs a way of winning work that someone other than the founder can run. That comes down to five pieces, and each one replaces a step the founder now does from memory:
- Proposal template: it lays out the reasons to pick you without the founder there to explain them.
- Discovery script: your business development person uses it to check fit before a deal reaches the late stage that used to need you.
- Referral process: introductions get requested through clients and partners who know your work, as well as through the founder's own contacts.
- Business development role description: the person in the role knows what they own today, from first call to first proposal.
- Weekly operating rhythm: whoever owns new business runs the same review every week, even in weeks full of client deadlines.
If one person produces leads and another follows up, agree on what makes a lead qualified and pass each lead along with what the prospect has already read and asked about. My guide to sales and marketing alignment walks through how to set that up.
One owner and one weekly meeting
New business needs one person who owns it every week. That person can be a business development hire, a partner or, at first, the founder, as long as the job has a title and a fixed time on the calendar.
Each week the meeting covers the same ground: which deals moved, which stalled, who needs an introduction, and which proposals go out next. My pipeline management guide covers how to run that review.
At one design studio we worked with, the owner did all the marketing personally, so it happened in bursts and then stopped for months. We ran it on a schedule the team could keep, and within a quarter the studio had five inbound conversations it would never have had.
A target list built from warm relationships and buying signals
At this size, the best outreach list starts with people who already know your work. A creative production company we advised had grown on referrals and reputation, and then the growth stopped. We built them a list of nearly 700 companies inside the tools the firm already used. Some were companies showing signs they were ready to buy, and the rest were companies where a warm relationship already existed.
The founders worked the list themselves. Weeks later the firm booked a meeting with one of the largest technology companies in the world, and the founder told us where it came from: "the list that you provided."
Build yours from past clients, former colleagues and the companies where someone already knows your work. Then add companies showing signs they're about to buy.
Which numbers should a $2M to $5M agency watch?
Watch four numbers that show how much of new business still depends on the founder. Pipeline dollar volume can look healthy while all four are stuck.
- Founder-call rate: the share of intro and late-stage calls the founder has to join.
- Referral source mix: how many referrals come from clients and partners, compared with the founder's own contacts.
- Fit-qualified discovery rate: the share of discovery calls with a prospect who fits the work you want.
- Close rate without founder rescue: the share of proposals won without the founder stepping in at the end.
You can only measure these if every deal lives in one place. If yours are spread across inboxes and notes, my comparison of the best CRM platforms for consulting firms covers nine options and how to get partners to keep one updated.
Founder time belongs in what new business costs, too. Founders track marketing spend and almost never track their own business development time, so their client acquisition cost leaves out one of the biggest costs.
Should you hire, fix the process or bring in help?
Fix the process first. A business development person who isn't producing is often the right person running on the wrong setup, and a replacement would inherit the same setup.
I've watched a few agencies fire and re-hire business development people two or three times before they realized it wasn't a hiring problem. Once the proposals, the discovery script and the referral process work without the founder, see what the person you already have does with them.
If you don't have anyone in the role yet, my guide on when an agency should hire its first salesperson covers the signals that say you're ready and who to hire first.
Schmidt Consulting Group works on new business in two ways:
- Advisory: you get a written plan and one priority a week, and your team does the work. It fits when your team has the people to do it and wants direction every week.
- Fractional Partner: we take the growth seat inside your business and own the outcome alongside your team. It fits when growth has no owner inside the firm today.
What changes, and how long does it take?
The first proposals on the new setup usually go out within six to eight weeks, and meaningful pipeline movement usually arrives in the second quarter. Referrals take longer, because a new description of what you do has to travel through other people's networks before it brings anyone back.
Pipeline work rarely runs alone. Positioning or pricing work runs next to it, so no revenue number belongs to the pipeline by itself. The Agency Pipeline page reports the results this way:
Where it sticks, founder-led agencies have seen revenue lift of 30% or more in the year after the broader rebuild, margin lift of 20% or more when pricing was rebuilt alongside, less reliance on T&M, and conversations with larger clients they couldn't reach before. The numbers vary by client, and the pipeline work is one input among several.
Smaller changes come first. The founder steps off the early calls, discovery calls check fit, and proposals close without the founder rewriting them the night before.
How does Kurt Schmidt help agencies at this size?
I work with founder-led agencies on positioning, pricing and pipeline, and I've worked with more than 150 of them. I'm Kurt Schmidt. I was President and Partner at Foundry, a Minneapolis custom software and digital product agency, where I grew the team from 3 people to about 50, and Foundry made the Inc. 5000 in 2020 and 2021.
One branding and creative agency came to us with a $600,000 gap between where revenue was heading and where it needed to be. Deals lived in notes and an email tool, and the pitch changed depending on who was asking. We interviewed six of the agency's clients, rebuilt how the agency describes what it sells, and set up one place to track every deal from first call to signed contract. The agency's sales forecast went from $30K to $250K, a 733% increase in 30 days. Partway through the work, the founder crossed out the gap on a call: "you can put a strike through on 600 and put $350k."
A brand agency that had been discounting every renewal moved to fixed packages priced on results, and its average retainer value doubled in two quarters without losing a client. All eight client stories are on the client results page.
If new business at your firm still runs through you, Book a Call and we'll find where it leaks. If you'd rather start on your own, the four growth leaks will help you find yours.
Frequently Asked Questions
Why does agency new business stall between $2M and $5M?
New business at $2M to $5M agencies stalls because the way the firm wins work was built when it was smaller and still runs through the founder. The founder opens or rescues most deals, referrals come mainly from the founder's own network, two or three clients hold a large share of revenue, the service list has grown, and prices haven't moved. Working harder doesn't change any of those.
How much new business does a $3M agency need?
The answer comes from your own numbers. The revenue to win is what you expect to lose from clients who leave or spend less, plus your growth target. That total divided by your average engagement size gives the number of new clients you need. That number divided by your close rate gives the number of proposals it takes.
Should a $2M to $5M agency hire a salesperson?
Hire once the sales process is documented well enough for someone else to run it: a proposal template that works without the founder, a discovery script, a referral process and a weekly review. If you already have a business development person who isn't producing, fix that setup before you replace them, because a new hire would run on the same setup.
What should a $2M to $5M agency measure in its pipeline?
Measure how much of new business still needs the founder. Track the founder-call rate, the mix of referral sources, the share of discovery calls with prospects who fit, and the close rate on deals the founder didn't rescue. Pipeline dollar volume can look healthy while all four are stuck, so keep every deal in one system you can measure from.
How long does it take to fix agency new business?
The first proposals built on a new setup usually go out within six to eight weeks, and meaningful pipeline movement usually arrives in the second quarter. Referrals take longer, because a new description of what the firm does has to spread through the networks of clients and partners before it brings new prospects back.
Is it a positioning problem or a sales problem?
Listen to what happens when a prospect asks what makes you different. If the answer is generic and prospects compare you on price, start with positioning. If the description is clear but deals still stall unless the founder steps in, the problem is in how new business runs. Many agencies have both at once, so check both before you hire anyone.
About Kurt Schmidt
Kurt Schmidt is an agency growth consultant and coach. He works with founder-led agencies on positioning, pricing, and pipeline, and stays through the rollout instead of handing over a deck. Before consulting, Kurt was president and partner at Foundry, a Minneapolis digital agency that made the Inc. 5000 twice. His books include The Attraction Agency, and he hosts The Road Map.
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